Work took me to Bodelwyddan tonight to hear about the latest details in the residents' campaign to halt the local council's plan to treble the size of the village.
Denbighshire County Council has decided that, in order to reach its housing target from now until 2021, it will allocate 300 acres of good agricultural land just off the A55 at Bodelwyddan for housing. That will provide 1715 homes - there are currently about 850 homes in Bodelwyddan.
There were more than 100 people present and all angry with the council's failure to be present - neither the lead member nor a planning officer made it to answer their questions. Campaign group secretary Alice Jones did a great job in showing them up.
There are so many holes in the plan that the LDP could be a Swiss cheese but perhaps the most damning was that Denbighshire itself has recently fought against a half acre plot being developed for housing at Lleweni on the grounds that it was good agricultural land!
A member of the audience raised the West Cheshire Plan and asked how that was driving the Bodelwyddan project. The chair Derek Barker replied by saying there was a recent presentation by the chair of the MDA in Conwy and that they'd said the focus of the MDA in terms of economic development was now turning towards Manchester - even further from North East Wales! Barker added that the whole thrust of the plan was to provide housing in North East Wales while the jobs were to be focused in Cheshire and Ellesmere Port.
He added that Denbs CC was only invited to join the MDA because it had spare housing land in the A55 area. This was essential because Cheshire West and Chester Council still has a moratorium on house building in the green belt and Flintshire has little land available for more housing, so Denbs was next. It was damning of the whole MDA strategy.
On the evidence of tonight's meeting, Denbighshire CC could have their LDP thrown out by the inspector because they cannot prove any housing need or sustainability in their plan to put so many houses in Bodelwyddan.
There was also great concern that a London based property speculator called Barwoods had got involved in the process to early and was dictating to the council. This one, as they say, will run and run.