Tonight's rather strange hustings concentrated on whether we should have Police Commissioners. Once we'd established that nobody except John Marek wanted them, the whole thing went downhill.
The brutal fact that the organiser Richard Hibbs had to accept was that a meeting about policing and what the police do in the community would have attracted ten times more people. An academic discourse about the need for Police Commissioners - something the Assembly has rightly rejected - did not float many boats.
Bill Brereton, the Lib Dem candidate, went against the ConDem coalition's policy on the matter to his credit. He described the idea as corrupt and incestuous.
The vast majority of the audience were also hostile, which made life all the more difficult for Dr Marek.
In case you're wondering about the Labour panellist - Ken Skates failed to turn up.