tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691671699575405507.post539132747196106677..comments2024-03-10T22:25:07.539+00:00Comments on Wrecsam.news: Police Commissioners - The Way ForwardPlaid Whitegatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05757898330400853732noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691671699575405507.post-40830041738845942062012-01-16T13:12:16.246+00:002012-01-16T13:12:16.246+00:00OK so I'm coming forward to support your polic...OK so I'm coming forward to support your policing aims as follows:<br /><br />1. I am not and never have been a member of any political party<br /><br />2. I applaud the vision for cross-party support for a non-party candidate, it's encouraging to see a nationalist party seriously considering this option - a superb example of 'Idealpolitik' <br /><br />3. I competely agree with the decision made by parties who opposed the introduction of Police & Crime Commissioners not to contest the elections on November 15th in Wales - this is a highly principled position and I hope others will follow in due course.<br /><br />4. I propose that suitably qualified independents are best-placed to build cross-party support in North Wales, and an excellent antidote both to "extremism" and to further politicisation of the police<br /><br />4. I suggest that any parties that nevertheless feel obliged to go through a conventional candidate selection process for democratic reasons should now pause and adopt 'open' primaries instead.<br /><br />5. I am willing to contest any open primaries that are held in North Wales as an independent - check me out on the BBC website. QED<br /><br />Any independent wishing to persuade political parties not to field candidates will no doubt have their conflict of interest pointed out to them (thank you Arfon!). I prefer to see it as a confluence of interest rather than a conflict - can we perhaps focus on their qualifications instead?<br /><br />At this stage of the campaign, electoral credibility as an independent depends crucially on not getting too close to any one source of potential support. So in response to the criteria you have very helpfully set out, I can only promise qualified support as follows:<br /><br />1. Welsh control of the criminal justice system from start to finish - I have found it helpful to think of elected Police Commissioners as a form of accelerated devolution of police accountability to North Wales, rather than to a remote assembly in Cardiff. I also believe that the functions of the Youth Justice Board in Wales could in due course be devolved to Police Commissioners, along with responsibilty for commissioning 'corrections' more generally on behalf of the community. <br /><br />2. welfare of the community - I am 100% in favour of the prevention, restoration & (re-)integration agenda proposed by the Independent Commission on Youth Crime and Antisocial Behaviour in 2010<br /><br />3. politicisation of the police - in my view the police are quite politicised enough already, thank you very much. What we must avoid now is the party-politicisation of police priorities.<br /><br />Let's talk about it on 30 January!<br /><br />Richard Hibbs (Promoter & chair) 'Will elected Police Commissioners make a difference?'<br />www.regonline.co.uk/e-planRichard Hibbshttp://www.regonline.co.uk/e-plannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691671699575405507.post-34041562281946226602012-01-14T17:51:27.108+00:002012-01-14T17:51:27.108+00:00Might it be because the Lib Dems are in Govt and h...Might it be because the Lib Dems are in Govt and helped introduce the Tory measure? Just a thoughtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691671699575405507.post-74804200113527840272012-01-14T17:36:58.276+00:002012-01-14T17:36:58.276+00:00I have spent the last 8 years campaigning for REAL...I have spent the last 8 years campaigning for REAL policing in North Wales via my pressure group People for Proper Policing (just google last two words for our No.1 website) Our core group members have spent 1000s of hours writing and talking to Politicians, the Press and the Police and Police Authority. We have attended 100s of PA amd NWPF meetings and have promoted Crime prevention via community policing, carried out our own public opinion surveys and worked with our local officers to sort out a range of issues. The old system failed for obvious reasons and this one will also if it is allowed to by the public and politicians. Electing ex police Officers, PA members or Politicians will ensure it's failure. We need managers from the real world of business with proven track records in achievements and man management. The job description should be written and circualted via the press. The organisation headed by the commissioners must be clearly defined and the staff recruited likewise from the same backgrounds.Mike Crosshttp://www.properpolicing.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-691671699575405507.post-14809533295026202012-01-14T13:57:38.581+00:002012-01-14T13:57:38.581+00:00Where have Liberal Democrats politicised the polic...Where have Liberal Democrats politicised the police, apart from our objections to imposing commissioners??Frank Littlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12447989626809704972noreply@blogger.com